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    Historical Ranking: FRANCE

    [Last updated: end of 2008-2009 season]

    Rank Club Points
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    11
    12
    13
    14
    15
    16
    17
    18
    19
    20
    Olympique Marseille
    Saint-Etienne
    AS Monaco
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Bordeaux
    Nantes
    OCG Nice
    Lille OSC
    Sochaux
    Racing Club de Strasbourg
    Stade de Reims
    Paris-Saint-Germain
    Lens
    Rennes
    Metz
    Toulouse
    Nancy
    Nimes Olympique
    Auxerre
    Le Havre
    291
    272
    224
    222
    213
    207
    190
    175
    173
    169
    162
    154
    147
    147
    144
    114
    106
    104
    102
    101
    Rank Second Tier Clubs Points
    21
    22
    23
    24
    25
    26
    27
    28
    29
    30
    31
    32
    33
    34
    35
    36
    37
    38
    39
    40
    Valenciennes
    Cannes
    Angers
    Bastia
    Rouen
    Sedan
    Montpellier
    Troyes
    Caen
    Laval
    Grenoble
    Gueugnon
    Guingamp
    Brest
    Lorient
    Châteauroux
    Le Mans
    Amiens
    AC Ajaccio
    Tours
    97
    90
    88
    82
    77
    69
    60
    55
    50
    50
    48
    45
    43
    42
    40
    37
    36
    35
    34
    30
    Rank Third Tier Clubs Points
    41
    42
    43
    44
    45
    46
    47
    48
    49
    50
    51
    52
    53
    54
    55
    56
    57
    58
    59
    60
    Boulogne-sur-Mer
    Louhans-Cuiseaux
    Beauvais
    Istres
    Paris FC
    Creteil Lusitanos
    Dijon
    Clermont Foot
    Arles
    Rodez
    Hyères
    Vannes
    Aviron Bayonnais
    Croix de Savoie
    Fréjus Saint-Raphaël
    Luzenac
    Moulins
    Pacy Vallée-d’Eure
    Plabennec
    SO Cassis Carnoux
    26
    18
    17
    17
    14
    9
    9
    8
    7
    4
    3
    2
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0

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    The About a Ball ranking is a progressive points scoring system devised our statisticians to grade each league club according to their historical achievements since the beginning of organised football in this country. We felt the need for such a ranking after hearing numerous lower division chairmen claiming that their club is one of the biggest in the country and should rightfully be in the top division. However, there are only 20 places in Ligue 1 and therefore only 20 clubs deserve to occupy them, so we decided to find out which clubs really are sleeping giants and which are currently flying well above their historical status.

    NOTE: National championships have been contested in France since 1894 but were originally very regional in nature and included only a handful of teams. This ranking takes into account league results since the first proper league in 1932/33 (1933/34 for Division 2). The Coupe de France dates from 1918.

    How it works

    Points awarded as follows:

    Champions Cup Win +15
    Other European Trophy Win +10
    League Championship +10
    FA Cup Win +6
    League Cup Win +3
    Second Level Division Win +3
    Lower Division Win +1
    Season in top division +2
    Season in 2nd division +1
    Bonuses: Super Cup; Club Cup; Double +1

    Notes: The scores include any points scored by a club under a former name. In cases where clubs have merged or re-formed, the new club has been awarded the points accumulated by its previous incarnations wherever there is a continuation or substantial link between the old and new clubs. This proved particularly difficult in France because there have been numerous mergers, splits, name changes and reformations over the years. We will continue to investigate the history of several clubs and they may be awarded/deducted points in the future if we find evidence that has previously been overlooked.

    Criticisms and Improvements

    There is no account taken of when the points were scored, so a team (e.g. Stade de Reims) could have scored a large portion of their points a long time ago in a very different era. The teams did not all join the league at the same time so founder members have had a much longer period of time over which to accumulate points than “new” clubs such as PSG or Auxerre. The system takes account only of on the pitch successes and not off the pitch factors such as attendance and annual budget which could indicate a big club. The About a Ball ranking could be improved (and also complicated) by including points for average attendances and annual budget/profit, dividing points totals by the number of years clubs have been in the league, or by giving less weight to points scored a long time ago. However, we are satisfied that our ranking shows the relative playing merits of the 60 league clubs based on historical success and identifies clubs currently under or over achieving.

    Conclusions

    Lyon have made great progress up the table in recent years but they are still only fourth in the all-time ranking despite their recent dominance. It’s quite tight at the top, with Marseille and Saint Etienne enjoying a comfortable lead over the evenly matched Monaco and Lyon in third and fourth, with current champions Bordeaux lurking in fifth. Monaco need to win smething soon to maintain their lofty position or they will go the same way as Nantes, whose recent slump has seen them drop from fourth to sixth.

    There is a fairly high correlation between the historical top twenty clubs and the current top-flight teams, with 14 appearing in both lists and Valenciennes just outside in 21st place. Boulogne-sur-Mer are the ’smallest’ top flight club at the moment, as their record places them 41st overall. Nantes and Strasbourg are the biggest clubs currently outside the top division as they belong in 7th and 10th place historically but are currently in Ligue 2. Stade de Reims are the only club that has fallen two divisions below their top-flight status.

    There are of course several other clubs that have scored points under this system over the years but are no longer in the three nationwide divisions. Some of them, such as Racing Club de France, Rouen, Red Star and Alès have been quite successful and would rank highly. We will look at ways to include them in future updates.

    It is strictly forbidden to copy or reproduce these tables without permission. Any breach of copyright may lead to prosecution. The tables will be updated annually and any feedback on the results/corrections to data is welcome.

    aboutaball.com 2009

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