Historical Ranking of German football clubs
Historical Ranking: GERMANY
[Last updated: end of 2006-07 season]
| Rank | Club | Points |
| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 |
Bayern München Dynamo Dresden Borussia Dortmund Borussia Monchengladbach Werder Bremen Hamburger SV VfB Stuttgart 1. FC Köln 1. FC Magdeburg 1. FC Kaiserslautern Eintracht Frankfurt FC Carl Zeiss Jena FC Schalke 04 Erzgebirge Aue Hansa Rostock 1. FC Nürnberg Rot-Weiß Erfurt Hannover 96 |
459 193 180 173 172 171 155 145 142 140 130 130 127 118 116 113 98 84 |
| Rank | Second Tier Clubs | Points |
| 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 |
VfL Bochum Bayer Leverkusen Karlsruher SC Fortuna Düsseldorf Hertha Berlin MSV Duisburg 1860 München Eintracht Braunschweig Energie Cottbus Rot-Weiss-Essen 1. FC Union Berlin Arminia Bielefeld SC Freiburg Kickers Offenbach FC St. Pauli Alemannia Aachen VfL Wolfsburg Rot-Weiß Oberhausen |
77 75 75 71 70 67 64 63 57 51 49 49 41 37 30 28 25 24 |
| Rank | Third Tier Clubs | Points |
| 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 |
Stuttgarter Kickers 1. FSV Mainz 05 SpVgg Unterhaching VfL Osnabrück Greuther Fürth Wuppertaler SV Borussia KSV Hessen Kassel Rot-Weiss Ahlen VfB Lübeck Wacker Burghausen SSV Reutlingen FC Augsburg FSV Frankfurt SC Paderborn 07 Bayern München II Karlsruher SC II Sportfreunde Siegen SSV Jahn Regensburg SV Wehen Wiesbaden 1860 München II 1899 Hoffenheim Borussia Dortmund II Energie Cottbus II FC Ingolstadt 04 FSV LU-Oggersheim Hamburger SV II Kickers Emden SC Pfullendorf SC Verl SV Babelsberg 03 SV Elversberg SV Sandhausen TuS Koblenz VfB Stuttgart II VfR Aalen Werder Bremen II |
24 21 16 15 11 11 7 6 6 5 4 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 |
| Rank | Non-league & Defunct Clubs with 10+ | Points |
| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 |
Berliner FC Dynamo Frankfurter FC Viktoria ’91 FSV Zwickau Hallescher FC Lokomotiv Leipzig BSG Chemie Leipzig Chemnitzer FC Bayer 05 Uerdingen Dresdner SC Stahl Riesa 1.FC Saarbrücken SV Waldhof Mannheim 1.FC Lok Stendal SC Fortuna Köln SG Wattenscheid 09 SV Babelsberg 03 SV Darmstadt 98 FC Homburg/Saar SV Dessau 05 Tennis Borussia Berlin Stahl Brandenburg SV Stahl Thale 1. SV Gera Borussia Neunkirchen FC Weißenfels SV Meppen Meeraner SV VfR Mannheim |
191 144 114 101 100 94 82 44 32 32 31 31 30 24 22 21 21 17 16 16 15 14 12 12 12 11 10 10 |
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The ABOUT A BALL Ranking is a progressive points scoring system devised by our statisticians to grade each league club according to their historical achievements since the beginning of organised football in that country. We felt such a ranking was necessary in order to help settle age old debates about which is the biggest/best club in each country and which ones historically merit a top division place. Of course, there are only a limited number of places available in the top division of any given country, so who really are the sleeping giants in the lower divisions and which clubs are currently flying well above their historical status?
NOTES: The ranking shows the 72 teams currently competing in the top three levels of German football. They have been split into three tiers according to their scores to show which division their historical record would place them in. A further 65 clubs have registered points under the system since the Second World War but have either folded or dropped out of the top divisions. The bottom section of the table shows all those clubs with ten or more points.
Due to the particularities of German history it proved much harder to come up with a reasonable ranking system for Germany than for any other country. Although German football dates back to the dawn of the 20th century and beyond, we decided to limit the ranking to post-war competitions because of the number of changes and irregularities before this time. For example, there was never a single national championship before the war, only regional groups who played off for the title. As the German empire expanded in the 1930's and '40's the championship and the cup included (and were often won by) Austrian, Czech and French teams e.g. First Vienna FC, Rapid Wien. When football resumed after the war, Germany was split into two countries, the BRD in the west and the DDR in the east with separate leagues and cups. These were reunited in 1990 and a unified league began in the 1991/92 season. We decided to treat points gained from East and West German football equally, just as East German Marks were converted to Deutsch Marks at reunification.
Immediately after the war, West German football continued on a regional basis with the regional Oberliga winners entering playoffs for the overall champion until 1963.The Bundesliga began in the 1963/64 season, and has continued as a single, national top division ever since. A new second level was created at the same time first time, although this took the form of five regional groups with playoffs for two promotion places. For the 1974/75 season this became two groups and in 1981 a national second division was created. This has remained unchanged except for the 1991/92 season when it was briefly regional to accommodate the inclusion of eastern clubs. The third level has always been regional and has changed frequently. In 2000/01 it was streamlined to just Nord and Süd groups above a fourth level of ten parallel divisions. The West German cup resumed after the war in the 1952/53 season.
The East German league was much simpler to follow as it changed little between post-war resumption in 1949/50 and reunification at the end of 1990/91. There was always a single top division with between two and five regional divisions below it. The cup also ran from 1949/50 - 1990/91. There have been numerous name changes in German football, particularly regarding teams from the former East Germany. I have done my best to take all of these into account although the history of many clubs has become a bit murky due to the number of mergers, splits and reformations.
How it works
Points awarded as follows:
| Champions Cup Win | +15 |
| Other European Trophy Win | +10 |
| League Championship | +10 |
| FA Cup Win | +6 |
| League Cup Win | +3 |
| Second Level Division Win | +3 |
| Lower Division Win | +1 |
| Season in top division | +2 |
| Season in 2nd division | +1 |
| Bonuses: Super Cup; Club Cup; Double | +3 |
NOTES SPECIFIC TO GERMANY: The league cup has not been included. (It is a small summer competition involving only 8 clubs). West German second level winners have been awarded points from 1963/64 onwards. Where there were two (regional) winners, both have been awarded points. Points have not been awarded for East German second level wins as it was never a national division. (I felt the regional divisions in East Germany were too weak to merit 3 points for the winners). Points for lower division wins have been awarded from 1994 onwards. Points for seasons in the top division were awarded from 1949/50-1990/91 in East Germany and from 1963/64 onwards (Bundesliga era) in West Germany / unified Germany. Seasons in the second division have scored points from 1981/82 onwards in West (& unified) Germany but were never credited for the regional DDR divisions.
Criticisms and Improvements
There is no account taken of when the points were scored, so a team could have scored most of their points a long time ago but still be ranked high up today. Also, teams who have been in the league longer will have had the possibility to accrue more points than newer clubs so a team who have experienced a recent period of success may be below a team who have underachieved consistently over time. Our system only takes account of on the pitch successes and not off the pitch factors such as attendance and annual budget which could indicate a big club. The About a Ball system could be improved (and also complicated) by including points for average attendances and annual budget/profit, dividing points totals by the number of years clubs have been in the league, or by giving less weight to points scored a long time ago. However, we feel that the passage of time should not be taken into account because staying power and longevity are indicators of a great club. Equally, small clubs enjoying a current period of success are not guaranteed to remain big. All in all, we are satisfied that the ranking shows the relative playing merits of the current league clubs based on historical success, and identifies clubs currently under or over achieving.
Conclusions
It's no surprise to see Bayern topping the table - four European Cup triumphs and several more championships than anyone else put them well ahead of the rest. The fact that the points only date from 1945 mean that scores are lower than for other countries, and large gaps have not had time to develop among the field. The fact that Germany was previously two countries accounts for the high number of clubs that have scored points although almost half of those are still in single figures. Many teams have appeared fleetingly in the top flight only to drop back into obscurity.
Just over half (ten) of the current top division clubs are in the historical top division. The other eight should all be at the second level so there are no real minnows in the 1. Bundesliga at the moment. Wolfsburg are the lowest ranked and therefore 'smallest' top division club at 35th in our table. The eight clubs in the top division in our ranking but not currently in the 1. Bundesliga are all still competing in the top three levels of German football. Five are in the second division with only former East German giants Dynamo Dresden, 1. FC Magdeburg and Rot-Weiß Erfurt in the third division north. All have struggled economically since reunification but gradually the former DDR clubs are creeping back up through the divisions.
The non-league and defunct clubs table makes for interesting reading. Berliner FC Dynamo (Dynamo Berlin) would be in third place overall, were they still a league club. However, their record is the most contrived of all the former DDR clubs and is almost entirely down to their 'government aided' ten championships in a row from 1979 to 1988. Eight of the next nine places are also occupied by former DDR clubs whose records would place them in the top two divisions.
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